<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3800145</id><updated>2009-01-05T08:01:00.241-05:00</updated><title type='text'>THE TALK SHOW AMERICA SHOW</title><subtitle type='html'>Political Conservative News and Commentary</subtitle><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3800145/posts/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.talkshowamerica.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3800145/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.talkshowamerica.com/rss.xml'/><author><name>J.R.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02238211665648916543</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>3758</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3800145.post-2432526280723300023</id><published>2008-12-31T13:30:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2008-12-31T16:55:53.268-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Evidence of Obama's Kenyan Birth To Be Revealed</title><content type='html'>A private investigator in Hawaii has uncovered the divorce decree for Barack Obama's father and mother, which indicates they had "one child under the age of eighteen, born in Kenya." That is the report of Ed Hale of &lt;a href="http://www.plainsradio.com/"&gt;PlainsRadio.com&lt;/a&gt;, an Internet radio site which has focused upon the natural born Citizen challenges to Obama's presidential eligibility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hale announced this during his evening Internet broadcast on &lt;a href="http://www.plainsradio.com/"&gt;PlainsRadio.com&lt;/a&gt;, Tuesday, 12/30 and confirmed it with I.O. in an online interview, later that night. He reported that certified copies of this documentation have been sent from Hawaii by the investigator to himself and four others. Hale is to receive his copy today, Wednesday, 12/31 and plans to post it graphically on the site, during the day. He will also discuss this on a special Internet broadcast, between 6 pm and 10 pm Central Time, tonight. The site streams audio as soon as it is accessed via Web browser.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Texan Internet entrepreneur relates he got fed up with the lack of documentation on Obama and decided to discuss ideas with his radio audience. His offer to hire an investigator was met with piecemeal sums of money from listeners to his broadcasts. Hale said some of the information one would expect to find was not available. For example, documentation from Obama's mother Stanley Ann's divorce to her second husband, Lolo Soetoro, had vanished. Hale speculates, the reason this forthcoming 1964 divorce decree had not also been "scrubbed" could be that the divorce had been filed not by Obama's mother, but by Barack H. Obama, Sr. Thus, it may have been overlooked by any plumbers for Obama.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hale does admit to incomplete certainty of his investigator's work until he receives it, partially due to the PI's accent, the telephone connection, and his slight hearing impediment. However, he is very confident of what he will receive during the day. &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&amp;safe=active&amp;client=pub-9823569451097165&amp;channel=0295018976&amp;cof=FORID%3A1%3BGL%3A1%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fenglish.pravda.ru%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fengforum.pravda.ru%2Fimages%2FvBulletin_logo.gif%3BLH%3A41%3BLW%3A170%3BLBGC%3Affffff%3BLC%3A%230d3159%3BVLC%3A%23663399%3BGALT%3A%23a72121%3BGFNT%3A%230000ff%3BGIMP%3A%230000ff%3BDIV%3A%23E7E7E7%3B&amp;domains=english.pravda.ru&amp;sig=sapMU9WGCbmsuW3i&amp;flav=0000&amp;ie=ISO-8859-1&amp;oe=ISO-8859-1&amp;q=Mark+S.+McGrew&amp;btnG=Search&amp;sitesearch=english.pravda.ru"&gt;Mark S. McGrew&lt;/a&gt;, who writes about Obama's natural born Citizen problems for &lt;a href="http://english.pravda.ru/"&gt;Pravda.ru&lt;/a&gt;, accompanied Hale in his broadcast and also expressed confidence. McGrew had sought publication in numerous American news outlets, but they turned down his articles referring to Obama's apparent ineligibility. Russia's Pravda however, decided his effort to find and report the truth was not to be redlined.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/2442810129"&gt;Link to PlainsRadio and their message forum&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.plainsradio.com/chat1.html"&gt;Link to PlainsRadio and chat window&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript"&gt;&lt;!--
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Now they're below $40 thanks to slowing global demand. At the same time, gas prices have plunged from over $4 a gallon to around $1.67 nationally. (And some analysts think they're heading to a buck a gallon.) And just as high energy prices were a drag on the economy last summer, they're giving it a boost heading into 2009. JP Morgan Chase economist James Glassman estimates that the drop in oil prices represents "a boost equivalent to a $350 billion stimulus." To bring that down to the average consumer, Glassman explains, think of it this way: The typical household drives 15,000 miles annually. So a drop in gas prices to, say, $1.50 a gallon would represent a savings in their annual gas bill of $2,500 from when gas was at $4. This could boost GDP growth by as much as two percentage points.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;2)&lt;strong&gt;Falling mortgage rates.&lt;/strong&gt; If there's anything falling as fast as energy prices it's mortgage rates. Rates for a 30-year, fixed-rate mortgage fell to a low, low 5.19 percent last week thanks to the Federal Reserve's pledged efforts to purchase mortgage securities. That should help housing affordability and the ability of current homeowners to refinance their mortgages. And even more good news could be on the way if you don't mind Uncle Sam borrowing billions more for yet another bailout: The Treasury Department is reportedly considering a plan to push mortgage rates to as low as 4.5 percent for new homebuyers and, perhaps, even for current homeowners who want to refinance. Investment strategist Edward Yardeni thinks if rates could get pushed down to 4 percent, either via the Fed or Treasury's efforts, the economic impact would be amazing. He figures that the average rate on the $10 trillion in outstanding mortgages is about 6 percent. A two-percentage-point drop would amount to a $200 billion annual tax cut for the 45 million American households with mortgages.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;3) &lt;strong&gt;Actions by the Federal Reserve.&lt;/strong&gt; The nation's central bankers have basically said that they'll do whatever it takes to strengthen the economy. They've already pushed short-term interest rates to near zero percent and have made it clear that the Fed will buy various debt securities to unfreeze the credit markets. Brian Bethune of IHS Global Insight called the Fed's recent moves "exactly the kind of forceful medicine the economy needs as it plumbs the depths of the current recession. The Fed's actions will translate into much lower effective borrowing costs in the next few weeks." Certainly this is not your grandfather's Fed. The central bank is pouring money into the financial system. That's a big difference between now and the Great Depression. "In the Depression," notes economist Brian Wesbury of First Trust Advisers, " the real problem was that the Fed let the money supply collapse ... This is not happening now. The Federal Reserve ... is adding liquidity to the system as rapidly as it can."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;4) &lt;strong&gt;Obama's stimulus plan&lt;/strong&gt;, 2.0. It now looks like Uncle Sam, under the direction of Obama and the new Democrat-controlled Congress, will spend somewhere between $750 billion and $1 trillion over the next two years to boost the economy. The money would be spent, according to analysts, mostly on infrastructure (everything from transportation to broadband to green technology investment) but also on aid to state and local governments and middle-class tax relief. This plan will probably create somewhat more jobs in the short term than if nothing were done. Obama optimistically hopes as many as 3 million. The real question is whether his spending plan is the best use of that amount of taxpayer money. Economists Susan Woodward of UCLA and Robert Hall of MIT are dubious. In their cowritten blog, the duo opine that "complicated projects take time to ramp up to high spending and employment levels." But, most promsing, there are rumors that Obama may be considering a payroll tax holiday. That would put money into the economy much faster than an infrastructure spending plan. Even better, many studies say, would be sweeping tax cuts on incomes, business and capital.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;5) &lt;strong&gt;America's deep fundamentals. &lt;/strong&gt;Did you know that the World Economic Forum—the Davos people—for the second straight year judged the United States as possessing the most competitive economy in the world? (Then came Switzerland, Denmark, Sweden, and Singapore.) Among America's strengths: innovation, flexible labor markets, and higher education. Not surprisingly, though, our institutions ranked a dismal 29th. (Thanks, Wall Street.) Overall, the core U.S. economy is in far better shape than it was in the 1970s, with a higher productivity and a better tax and regulatory system. Even though the American economy finally succumbed to the oil shock and the credit crisis in 2008, it held up longer than many predicted thanks to its deep strengths. Who knows, maybe it will surprise the bears again in 2009.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Don't expect the main stream news media to report any of this because it does not forecast gloom and doom, so they won't cover it.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript"&gt;&lt;!--
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Obama has advocated for the elimination of the U.S. Constitution' s requirement that a president be a "natural-born" citizen, calling the requirement "stupid" and asserting it discriminates, is outdated and undemocratic. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The paper was written in 2006 by Sarah Herlihy, just two years after Obama had won a landslide election in Illinois to the U.S. Senate. Herlihy is listed as an associate at the Chicago firm of Kirkland &amp; Ellis.&lt;http://www.kirkland .com/&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The article by Herlihy is available online under law review articles from Kent University.&lt;http://lawreview. kentlaw.edu/ articles/ 81-1/Herlihy. pdf&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Herlihy's published paper reveals that the requirement likely was considered in a negative light by organizations linked to Obama in the months before he announced in 2007 his candidacy for the presidency.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"The natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the 'stupidest provision' in the Constitution, "undecidedly un-American, " "blatantly discriminatory, " and the "Constitution' s worst provision," Herlihy begins in her introduction to the paper titled, "Amending the Natural Born Citizen Requirement: Globalization as the Impetus and the Obstacle." &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"The current American perceptions about the effects of globalization and the misunderstanding about what globalization actually is will result in Americans deciding that naturalized citizens should not be president because this would, in effect, be promoting globalization, Herlihy wrote. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Although this argument is admittedly circular, because globalization is the thing that makes the need to abolish the requirement more and more persuasive, Americans' subsequent perceptions about globalization are the very things that will prevent Americans from embracing the idea of eliminating the natural born requirement. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Logical Americans are looking for a reason to ignore the rational reasons promoted by globalization so that they may vote based on their own emotions and instincts," she wrote. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She blamed support for the constitutional provision on "fear, racism, religious intolerance, or blind faith in the decisions of the Founding Fathers." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Herlihy said the constitutional provision simply is outdated. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"Considering that the Founding Fathers presumably included the natural born citizen clause in the Constitution partly out of fear of foreign subversion, the current stability of the American government and the intense media scrutiny of presidential candidates virtually eliminates the possibility of a 'foreigner' coming to America, becoming a naturalized citizen, generating enough public support to become president, and somehow using the presidency to directly benefit his homeland," she wrote. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The natural born citizen clause of the United States Constitution should be repealed for numerous reasons. Limiting presidential eligibility to natural born citizens discriminates against naturalized citizens, is outdated and undemocratic, and incorrectly assumes that birthplace is a proxy for loyalty," she wrote. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many of the reasons for keeping the limit, she wrote, "are based primarily on emotion." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;It looks like Obama's camp looked into the matter of 'natural born' back as early as 2006. What is even more disturbing is that it would appear that they are following the thought of:&lt;/em&gt; &lt;strong&gt;'If the facts do not support the theory, Destroy the facts!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript"&gt;&lt;!--
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They would be compounded if his ineligibility were discovered after he had been in office for a period of time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"Let's assume he wasn't born in the U.S.," Mr. Vieira told The Bulletin. "What's the consequence? He will not be eligible. That means he cannot be elected validly. The people and the Electoral College cannot overcome this and the House of Representatives can't make him president. So what's the next step? He takes the oath of office, and assuming he's aware he's not a citizen, then it's a perjured oath."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Any appointments made by an ineligible president would have to be recalled, and their decisions would be invalidated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"He may have nominated people to different positions; he may have nominated people to the judicial branch, who may have been confirmed, they may have gone out on executive duty and done various things," said Mr. Vieira. "The people that he's put into the judicial branch may have decided cases, and all of that needs to be unzipped."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Vieira said Obama supporters should be the ones concerned about the case, because Mr. Obama's platform would be discredited it he were forced to step down from the presidency later due to his ineligibility, were it to be discovered.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"Let's say we go a year into this process, and it all turns out to be a flim-flam," said Mr. Vieira. "What's the nation's reaction to that? What's going to be the reaction in the next U.S. election? God knows. It has almost revolutionary consequences, if you think about it."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Vieira said Mr. Obama's continued silence and avoidance in the release of his birth certificate is an ethical issue because of the dire consequences that could be caused by a possible constitutional crisis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"If he were my client and this question came up in civil litigation, if there was some reason that his birth status was relevant and the other side wanted him to produce the thing and he said 'no,' I would tell him, 'you have about 15 minutes to produce it or sign the papers necessary to produce the document, or I'm resigning as your attorney," said Mr. Vieira. "I don't think any ethical attorney would go ahead on the basis that his client could produce an objective document in civil litigation [and refused to do so]."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Further, Mr. Vieira cited a fraud ruling in a 1977 case called U.S. v. Prudden, which he feels applies in this case.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"Silence can only be equated with fraud when there is a legal and moral duty to speak or when an inquiry left unanswered would be intentionally misleading," the ruling reads. "We cannot condone this shocking conduct ... If that is the case we hope our message is clear. This sort of deception will not be tolerated and if this is routine it should be corrected immediately."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Vieira said such an ethical question of representing a client who refused to produce such a basic document is important, even in a small civil case. The current question is concerning the man who potentially could have his finger next to the nuclear button.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"[The birth certificate], in theory, should be there," said Mr. Vieira. "What if it isn't? Who knows, aside from Mr. Obama? Does Russian intelligence know it isn't there? Does Chinese intelligence know it isn't there? Does the CIA know that it isn't there? Who is in a position to blackmail this fellow?" &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Vieira explained all laws have to be submitted to the president. In the event that there is no valid president, then no laws passed by Congress in that administration would be legally null and void. Because of that, this case will probably not go away, even after Mr. Obama takes the oath of office.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"If you don't produce it, you think it's going to go away," he said. "There are all these cases challenging Mr. Obama, and some challenging secretaries of state, and they run into this doctrine called standing."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Vieira explained although legal standing is difficult to get around in Federal courts, the document could be produced in any criminal cases stemming from legislation passed in the Obama administration.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"Let's assume that an Obama administration passes some of these controversial pieces of legislation he has been promising to go for, like the FOCA (Freedom of Choice) Act," said Mr. Vieira. "I would assume that some of those surely will have some severe civil or criminal penalties attached to them for violation. You are now the criminal defendant under this statute, which was passed by an Obama Congress and signed by President Obama. Your defense is that is not a statute because Mr. Obama is not the president. You now have a right and I have never heard this challenged, to subpoena in a criminal case, anyone who has relevant evidence relating to your defenses. And you can subpoena them duces tecum, meaning 'you shall bring with you the documents.' "&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such a criminal defense would enable the defendant to subpoena any person to testify in court and any person to bring evidence in their possession to the court. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Further, records could be subpoenaed directly, in the case of a birth certificate. Once the record could be subpoenaed, the birth certificate could be examined by forensic experts, who would then be able to testify to the document's veracity as expert witnesses. Any movement by the judges to make a special exception to the president in a criminal case would hurt the legitimacy of that presidential administration.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"I can't believe I'm the only lawyer who would think of this," said Mr. Vieira. "I think any criminal lawyer defending against one of these politically charged statutes is going to come up with this. That means it will never go away until that document is laid down on the table and people say, 'yes, there it is.' And therefore they're caught. If people keep challenging this and the judges out of fear keep saying 'no, go to jail, go to jail, go to jail' then that's the end of the Obama administration's legitimacy. On the other hand if they open the file and it's not there, then that's really the end of the administration's legitimacy."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript"&gt;&lt;!--
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The duty is in the Electoral College. Every Obama elector that is committed to casting a vote on the 15th of December, they have a constitutional duty to make certain whether Mr. Obama is a natural-born citizen," he said. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Titus holds a law degree cum laude from Harvard, is admitted to practice before the U.S. Supreme Court and a long list of federal court districts, and helped found a law school. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"They have not made the appointment of the president to depend on any pre-existing bodies of men, who might be tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes; but they have referred it in the first instance to an immediate act of the people of America, to be exerted in the choice of persons for the temporary and sole purpose of making the appointment," Hamilton wrote. "And they have excluded from eligibility to this trust, all those who from situation might be suspected of too great devotion to the president in office. No senator, representative, or other person holding a place of trust or profit under the United States, can be of the numbers of the electors. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the electors fail, Titus said, "I think it moots the point." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I don't think there is anything in the Constitution [that would allow a challenge based on a candidate's constitutional qualifications.] &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"It would politically undermine Obama's re-election … and there may be an impeachment if someone concluded he deliberately misled the people, and knew he was not a natural-born citizen," he said. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"If it's revealed it's only going to be [revealed because of] investigative journalism or by Obama himself," he said. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"It's only the Electoral College that has the duty and authority to determine is a person is qualified to be president," Titus said. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"We should act accordingly, get the names of all the electors, including McCain's electors, and urge them to do their duty," he said. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"Politically, [being ineligible] would be a very serious problem for [Obama,]" he said. "But there also would be people who would only shrug." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"It's up to the people. Essentially the Constitution is a covenant of the people with their government. If the people don't insist on their government officials abiding by the covenant, I don't know what you can do," he said. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The whole notion of a natural-born citizen is designed for the purpose of making sure that the chief executive would not have politically divided loyalties," he said. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Hang on to your hats ladies and gentlmen because there are all sorts of varying legal opinions out there on who is in charge of investigating this matter and making sure that Obama is certified to take office as I find them I will present them on the blog.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript"&gt;&lt;!--
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Apparently some person only known as "&lt;a href="http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/Lawsuits/Virginia.htm"&gt;Wild Bill&lt;/a&gt;" had claimed to have filed a law suit in the state of Virginia challenging Obama's eligibility to be President.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Great News&lt;br /&gt;written by Wild Bill, October 22, 2008 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Virginia lawsuit (actually a Petition for Writ of Mandamus) was filed today. Ironically, we almost missed filing and serving due to the thousands of people downtown today to see Obama speak. In even better news, the Honorable Walter W. Stout III, the chief judge, granted our motion for an emergency hearing and set a briefing schedule. We were required to serve the Board of Elections a copy of the schedule today (which we did). We must file our brief and all supporting evidence on Friday. The Board of Elections has until the 28th to file a response. We may file a reply on the 29th and the hearing will be held on the 30th at 1:30p.m.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;We did send copies of the suit and orders to the local media, but unlike some people, we are more interested in pursuing the legal battle, not whoring ourselves out to the media. For that same reason we are not setting up a website or soliciting donations.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;We will let you know how things progress. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On November 3, this post appeared in &lt;a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2123806/posts"&gt;Free Republic:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Virginia State Court Dismisses Action Challenging Obama's Eligibility to be President&lt;br /&gt;ObamaCrimes.com ^ | Nov. 3 | WildBill &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 2:20:35 PM by Sibre Fan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The decision was handed down today - it is a long and well-reasoned analysis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;***&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today's decision is not the result of a conspiracy, nor is it the result of a biased or unprincipled judge. I have made a good living working in out nations courts and have the utmost respect for them. I would hope all patriotic Americans would feel the same way and avoid making unfounded scurrilous remarks about the judge or the judicial system. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;***&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, the decision. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are two parts - first the response on the State's argument that the Board of Elections is not responsible for vetting candidates for president, second the issues we raised regarding Mr. Obama's citizenship. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[Part 1: State's argument that the Board of Elections is not responsible for vetting candidates for president] &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With respect to the first part, the judge noted that in a presidential election, unlike any other election, the electorate votes for a slate of electors, not directly for the presidential candidates. The judge noted that there is no question that all of the proposed VA electors are qualified to hold that position (a position we never contested). The judge recognized the problem with this is that perhaps there is no entity that is responsible for vetting the presidential candidates. Some on this site have argued that the DNC is responsible for vetting their candidates. There is no legal support for that argument. The judge held that the Constitutional requirements for a presidential candidate are to be determined solely by the congress in session when the electoral votes are cast. The court cited Federal legislation further details the process for counting electoral votes in Congress. 3 U.S.C. 15. Section 15, which directs that Congress shall be in session on the appropriate day to count the electoral votes, with the President of the Senate presiding. It directs that designated individuals shall open, count and record the electoral votes, and then present the results to the President of the Senate, who shall then "announce the state of the vote." The statute provides a mechanism for objections then to be registered and resolved: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"[e]very objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received. When all objections so made . . . shall have been received and read, the Senate shall thereupon withdraw, and such objections shall be submitted to the Senate for its decision; and the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, in like manner, submit such objections to the House of Representatives for its decision." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus the court denied the motion for a writ of mandamaus and dismissed the petition. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I mentioned earlier, this was the argument that I think the State had the best chance on and it strikes me as correct. Much as the membership of the Senate is controlled by the senate (see, e.g. the senator Stevens discussion), the constitution places the power to determine presidential eligibility on the congress. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Based on this, our real battle should be to contact our representatives and senators and make certain that an objection is brought at the time of the counting of the electoral votes. Remember, this will be the new congress, so wait until Wednesday when you know who your new representatives and senators are. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Court could have ended there, but it went beyond this initial holding and addressed our other arguments (this is not uncommon - just as lawyers often make alternate arguments, courts regularly provide alternate holdings in case one is rejected). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[Part 2: issues we raised regarding Mr. Obama's citizenship] &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Court made the following findings: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1. The Certification of Live Birth presented to the court is unquestionably authentic.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The court noted that the certification had a raised seal from the state of Hawaii, had a stamp bearing the signature of the registrar of vital statistics. The court found "wholly unpersuasive" any of the internet claims that the birth certificate was altered in any way. Furthermore, the document itself was accompanied by an affidavit from the State Health Director (of Hawaii) verifying that the document is an authentic certification of live birth. The court held that there could be no doubt that the document was authentic unless one believed that the state of Hawaii's health department were in on an elaborate and complex conspiracy - and that there is not a shred of evidence that this is the case. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2. The Certification of Live Birth establishes that Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The affidavit of the State Health Director states that the information on the CLOB is identical to the information on the "vault" copy of the birth certificate, and that both documents establish that Mr. Obama was born in Honolulu. The Court noted that the CLOB is valid for all citizenship purposes. The court noted our argument that the COLB is not valid for determining citizenship, but referred us to Hawaiian law that states otherwise. "There is no difference between a certificate and a certification of live birth in the eyes of the state. For instance, either can be used to confirm U.S. citizenship to obtain a passport or state ID." The court found that Hawaiian law makes the COLB valid for all purposes with the exception of determining native Hawaiian heritage for certain state and federal benefits. The court held that if Mr. Obama were born elsewhere and the birth registered in Hawaii, the "place of birth" line on the COLB would reflect that fact. The court stated that there could be no doubt that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii and that any argument to the contrary was fanciful and relied on completely unsubstantiated internet rumors. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3. For that reason, 8 U.S.C. §1401(g), which at the relevant time provided as follows: &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: ***(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years:..... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;is irrelevant to this matter, as Mr. Obama was conclusively born in Hawaii. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;4. Mr. Obama did hold dual citizenship in the U.S. and Kenya until he became an adult.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When Barack Obama Jr. was born Kenya was a British colony. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.'s children: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth." In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UK. Obama's UK citizenship became an Kenyan citizenship on Dec. 12, 1963, when Kenya formally gained its independence from the United Kingdom. The court noted that Chapter VI, Section 87 of the Kenyan Constitution specifies that: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Every person who, having been born in Kenya, is on 11th December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Every person who, having been born outside Kenya, is on 11th December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall, if his father becomes, or would but for his death have become, a citizen of Kenya by virtue of subsection (1), become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus the court held that as a citizen of the UK who was born in Kenya, Obama's father automatically received Kenyan citizenship via subsection (1). So given that Obama qualified for citizen of the UK status at birth and given that Obama's father became a Kenyan citizen via subsection (1), thus Obama did in fact have Kenyan citizenship in 1963. However, the court further held that the Kenyan Constitution prohibits dual citizenship for adults. Kenya recognizes dual citizenship for children, but Kenya's Constitution specifies that at age 21, Kenyan citizens who possesses citizenship in more than one country automatically lose their Kenyan citizenship unless they formally renounce any non-Kenyan citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya. The court held that there was no evidence that Mr. Obama has ever renounced his U.S. citizenship or sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4, 1982. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The court held that there was no legal requirement that Mr. Obama renounce his Kenyan citizenship or affirm his U.S. citizenship in order to maintain his status as a natural born citizen. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5. Mr. Obama did not lose his U.S. Citizenship based on the acts of his parents, including adoption by an Indonesian citizen.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Court held that no action taken by the parents of an American child can strip that child of his citizenship. The court cited to the 1952 Immigration &amp; Nationality Act, Title III, Chapter 3, Sections 349 and 355, which was in effect in the late 1960s when Obama went to Indonesia, and which stated that a minor does not lose his US citizenship upon the naturalization of his parents or any other actions of his parents, so long as the minor returns to the US and establishes permanent US residency before the age of 21. Thus the adoption of Obama did not serve to strip him of his U.S. citizenship. The fact that Indonesian law does not allow dual citizenship is irrelevant, as U.S. law controls. Furthermore, the Court held that traveling on a foreign passport does not strip an American of his citizenship. The Court noted first that there was no evidence that Mr. Obama traveled on an Indonesian passport (Mr. Berg and others we reached out to for evidence never provided any evidence of this claim or any other of the claims we could have used some proof of.) Nonetheless, the court held that such travel does not divest an American of his citizenship. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Court makes other holdings and findings that I won't bother you with here. Needless to say, the decision is wholly against us. The court finds the claims against Mr. Obama's citizenship "wholly unpersuasive and bordering on the frivolous, especially in light of the complete absence of any first-hand evidence on any critical issue" and further classifies it as "conspiracy theory of the lowest sort, fueled by nothing than internet rumor and those who truly want to believe egging each other on."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sounds and looks all ncie and legal like right ?  The problem is that NO ONE seems to know anything about this case, the courts or the media !&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://americamustknow.com/virginiacase.aspx"&gt;America Wants to Know!&lt;/a&gt; had this posted on their site:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wild Bill files suit in Virginia&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This case is kind of funny.  To begin with I can't find out WHO this Wild Bill is.  Hard to find any information on this on the internet.  I keep finding the same two letters and nobody to vouch for them.  The funny thing is that this is the only case that seems to get answered in addition to being thrown out.  There's some pretty compelling arguements, but like I said, nobody is coming out and endorsing it, that I can find.  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;October 22, Wild Bill files case&lt;br /&gt; Wild Bill, apparently wanting to remain anonymous, filed a Petition for Writ of Mandamus&lt;br /&gt;Letter from wild bill found at PeoplePassions.org&lt;br /&gt;November 3, Virginia State Court throws case out&lt;br /&gt;State argues declares the Board of Elections is not responsible for vetting candidates for president&lt;br /&gt;State answer issues raise regarding Obama's citizenship&lt;br /&gt;Letter from Wild Bill found all over the internet&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Since I've posted this, I'm still getting feedback that this case didn't really happen.  I can't verify any of this.  I don't have time.  If anybody can get me some conclusive information on this case, that would be good.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;November 15, 2008 - I recieved an email today from attorney that is really in the know and she also has not been able to discover any concrete information on this case.  There is alot of speculation that  none of this actually happened.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I recieved the following email regarding this case:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Message:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;RE: WILD BILL CASE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I too believe that this case is a "fake case" based on the following:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. I conducted multiple searches for the case at &lt;a href="http://wasdmz2.courts.state.va.us/CJISWeb/circuit.html"&gt;http://wasdmz2.courts.state.va.us/CJISWeb/circuit.html&lt;/a&gt; - Using a variety of names, including Board of Elections, Elections, Election, etc. — and no case was reported.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. I contacted Judge Stout’s Office (the judge in the case, per Wild Bill. (Info at &lt;a href="http://www.courts.state.va.us/courts/circuit/Richmond/home.html"&gt;http://www.courts.state.va.us/courts/circuit/Richmond/home.html&lt;/a&gt;). &lt;strong&gt;The clerk there could find no record of the case in the docket.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. I contacted two local Richmond newspapers, with all the info available. There was no subsequent report on the case. Given that at least local news has reported on all similar cases, I find it very hard to believe that local Richmond news would not report on such a substantial opinion.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/obama-is-not-eligible-virginia-petition-for-writ-of-mandamus-circuit-court-richmond-virginia-judge-walter-w-stout-iii-court-ruling-wild-bill-va-board-of-elections-obama-camp-fraud-breaking/"&gt;Citizen Wells &lt;/a&gt;had this posted on their site:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Another Obama Camp scam?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;When I first read about the Virginia lawsuit claiming Obama is ineligible and the subsequent ruling by the judge, it did not smell right. I have reread the exerpts placed on the internet and after much thought and deciding that I had to read the Petition and the judges ruling, I searched for a record of the filing and hearing on the official Virginia Courts website. I did extensive searching by names and dates and found nothing. After much searching, I called the clerk of court's office. I was told that several people had called inquiring about the case and they could find no record of any case.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So this has raised more questions than answers.  It appears this supposed case may have been a hoax to get people to steer away from this issue.  I'll do some more digging folks and let you know what I find out .&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;script type="text/javascript"&gt;&lt;!--
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